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'''Talk pages''' are a key feature of DJBWiki, offering the ability to discuss articles and other issues with other DJBWikipedians.
</td></tr></table>'''Talk pages''' are a key feature of DJBWiki, offering the ability to discuss articles and other issues with other DJBWikipedians.


If you want to ask a question about an article, or you have a concern or comment, you can put a note in the article's '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_pages talk page]'''. You do that by clicking the "discussion" tab at the top of the page. Don't worry if the link shows up in red; it's OK to create the talk page if it doesn't already exist.
If you want to ask a question about an article, or you have a concern or comment, you can put a note in the article's '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_pages talk page]'''. You do that by clicking the "discussion" tab at the top of the page. Don't worry if the link shows up in red; it's OK to create the talk page if it doesn't already exist.
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When you post a new comment, put it at the bottom of the talk page. The exception is that if you're responding to someone else's remarks, put your comment below theirs. You can indent your comment by typing an asterisk (<tt>*</tt>) at the beginning of a line.
When you post a new comment, put it at the bottom of the talk page. The exception is that if you're responding to someone else's remarks, put your comment below theirs. You can indent your comment by typing an asterisk (<tt>*</tt>) at the beginning of a line.


You should sign your comments by typing <tt><nowiki>~~~</nowiki></tt> for just your username, or <tt><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></tt> for your username and a time signature (see the example discussion below). When you save the page, your signature will be inserted automatically. Most of us use time signatures because it makes following discussions much easier. For your convenience, there is a button at the top of the edit box with a signature icon ({{SERVER}}/skins/common/images/button_sig.png) which automatically inserts <nowiki>"--~~~~"</nowiki>.
You should sign your comments by typing <tt><nowiki>~~~</nowiki></tt> for just your username, or <tt><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></tt> for your username and a time signature (see the example discussion below). When you save the page, your signature will be inserted automatically. Most of us use time signatures because it makes following discussions much easier. For your convenience, there is a button at the top of the edit box with a signature icon ([[File:Button_sig.png|23px]]) which automatically inserts "--<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>".


You can get a username by [[Special:RequestAccount|creating an account]] (it's free). If you don't have an account, or if you have one but haven't logged in, you won't be able to make any edits (you will still be able to view the code behind articles.)
You can get a username by [[Special:RequestAccount|creating an account]] (it's free). If you don't have an account, or if you have one but haven't logged in, you won't be able to make any edits (you will still be able to view the code behind articles.)


==User talk pages==
== User talk pages ==
Every DJBWikipedian has a user talk page, on which other DJBWikipedians can leave messages. If someone has left you a message, you will see a note saying "You have new messages", with a link to your user talk page.
Every DJBWikipedian has a user talk page, on which other DJBWikipedians can leave messages. If someone has left you a message, you will see a note saying "You have new messages", with a link to your user talk page.


You can reply in either of two ways. One is to put a message on the user talk page of the person you're replying to. The other is to put your reply on your own talk page beneath the original message. Both are common on DJBWiki;  however, be aware that replying on your own talk page runs the risk that your reply won't be seen, if the user doesn't look at your talk page again. If you choose this approach, it's a good idea to post a notice at the top of your talk page so people know they have to keep an eye on it.
You can reply in either of two ways. One is to put a message on the user talk page of the person you're replying to. The other is to put your reply on your own talk page beneath the original message. Both are common on DJBWiki;  however, be aware that replying on your own talk page runs the risk that your reply won't be seen, if the user doesn't look at your talk page again. If you choose this approach, it's a good idea to post a notice at the top of your talk page so people know they have to keep an eye on it.


==Indenting==
== Indenting ==
Indenting can improve the layout of a discussion considerably, making it much easier to read. A standard practice is to indent your reply one level deeper than the person you are replying to.
Indenting can improve the layout of a discussion considerably, making it much easier to read. A standard practice is to indent your reply one level deeper than the person you are replying to.


There are several ways of indenting in DJBWiki:
There are several ways of indenting in DJBWiki:


===Plain indentations===
=== Plain indentations ===
The simplest way of indenting is to place a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colon_%28punctuation%29 colon] (<tt>:</tt>) at the beginning of a line. The more colons you put, the further indented the text will be. A newline (pressing '''Enter''' or '''Return''') marks the end of the indented paragraph.
The simplest way of indenting is to place a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colon_%28punctuation%29 colon] (<tt>:</tt>) at the beginning of a line. The more colons you put, the further indented the text will be. A newline (pressing '''Enter''' or '''Return''') marks the end of the indented paragraph.


For example:
For example:
:<tt>This is aligned all the way to the left.</tt>
 
:<tt><nowiki>:</nowiki>This is indented slightly.</tt>
<pre>
:<tt><nowiki>::</nowiki>This is indented more.</tt>
This is aligned all the way to the left.
:This is indented slightly.
::This is indented more.
</pre>
is shown as:
is shown as:
:This is aligned all the way to the left.
::This is indented slightly.
:::This is indented more.


===Bullet points===
This is aligned all the way to the left.
:This is indented slightly.
::This is indented more.
 
=== Bullet points ===
You can also indent using ''bullets'', and this is the most commonly used form of indentation on DJBWiki. To insert a bullet, use an asterisk (<tt>*</tt>). Similar to indentation, more asterisks in front of a paragraph means more indentation.
You can also indent using ''bullets'', and this is the most commonly used form of indentation on DJBWiki. To insert a bullet, use an asterisk (<tt>*</tt>). Similar to indentation, more asterisks in front of a paragraph means more indentation.


A brief example:
A brief example:
:<tt><nowiki>*</nowiki>First list item</tt>
<pre>* First list item
:<tt><nowiki>*</nowiki>Second list item</tt>
* Second list item
:<tt><nowiki>**</nowiki>Sub-list item under second</tt>
** Sub-list item under second
:<tt><nowiki>*</nowiki>Third list item</tt>
* Third list item</pre>
Which is shown as:


Which is shown as:
* First list item
:*First list item
* Second list item
:*Second list item
** Sub-list item under second
:**Sub-list item under second
* Third list item
:*Third list item


===Numbered items===
=== Numbered items ===
You can also create numbered lists. For this, use the number sign or octothorpe (<tt>#</tt>). This is usually used for polls and voting. Again, you can affect the indent of the number by the number of <tt>#</tt>'s you use.
You can also create numbered lists. For this, use the number sign or octothorpe (<tt>#</tt>). This is usually used for polls and voting. Again, you can affect the indent of the number by the number of <tt>#</tt>'s you use.


Example:
Example:
:<tt><nowiki>#</nowiki>First item</tt>
<pre>
:<tt><nowiki>#</nowiki>Second item</tt>
# First item
:<tt><nowiki>##</nowiki>Sub-item under second item</tt>
# Second item
:<tt><nowiki>#</nowiki>Third item</tt>
## Sub-item under second item
# Third item
</pre>
Shows up as:


Shows up as:
# First item
:#First item
# Second item
:#Second item
## Sub-item under second item
:##Sub-item under second item
# Third item
:#Third item


==Example discussion==
== Example discussion ==
''Here is an example of a well-formatted discussion:''
''Here is an example of a well-formatted discussion:''


Hi. I have a question about this article. I'm pretty sure Luke Skywalker was born on [[starwars:Hoth|Hoth]]. --[[User:Windos|Windos]] 02:49, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Hi. I have a question about this article. I'm pretty sure Luke Skywalker was born on [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hoth Hoth]. --[[User:Solari|Windos]] 02:49, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
*Well, last time I checked, Luke was born on [[starwars:Tatooine|Tatooine]]. --[[User:Ji K'awiil|Ji K'awiil]] 17:28, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 
**I think you should find a source for your claims. --[[User:Oberst|Oberst]] 20:53, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
* Well, last time I checked, Luke was born on [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tatooine Tatooine]. --[/code/index.php?title=User:Ji_K%27awiil&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1 Ji K'awiil] 17:28, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
***Okay, these sources agree with me:
** I think you should find a source for your claims. --[[User:Oberst|Oberst]] 20:53, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
*** Okay, these sources agree with me:
:::* ''Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope''
:::* ''Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope''
:::* ''Star Wars Empire: Darklighter''
:::* ''Star Wars Empire: Darklighter''
:::--[[User:Ji K'awiil|Ji K'awiil]] 19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)
:::--[[User:Ji K'awiil]] 19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)


Note that if you want to include a list in your comments, add colons before each item, for example:
Note that if you want to include a list in your comments, add colons before each item, for example:


<nowiki>***Okay, these elephant journals agree with me:</nowiki><br/>
***Okay, these elephant journals agree with me:
<nowiki>:::* ''Elephants Monthly''</nowiki>
:::* ''Elephants Monthly''
<nowiki>:::* ''Elephants World''</nowiki>
:::* ''Elephants World''
<nowiki>:::--[[User:Ji K'awiil|Ji K'awiil]] 19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)</nowiki>
:::--[[User:Ji K'awiil|Ji K'awiil]] 19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)


Also, signing your message off is done by:
Also, signing your message off is done by:
* Writing <nowiki>~~~</nowiki> for the name ([[User:Windos|Windos]]), or  
 
* Writing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for the name and date ([[User:Windos|Windos]] 19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)), or
* Writing <nowiki>~~~</nowiki> for the name ([[User:Solari|Windos]]), or  
* Writing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for the name and date ([[User:Solari|Windos]] 19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)), or
* Writing <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki> for the date only (19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)).
* Writing <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki> for the date only (19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)).
You should usually sign with both name and date but votes are often signed with names only.
You should usually sign with both name and date but votes are often signed with names only.


==Experiment==
== Experiment ==
Experiment! This time, instead of editing your [[Special:Mypage|User page]], leave a message on the talk page by clicking "discussion." Remember to sign your user name. You might want to try responding to someone else's post. Remember, you should use "Show preview" to see if your formatting works before you save.
Experiment! This time, instead of editing the [[DJBWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]], leave a message on the talk page by clicking "discussion." Remember to sign your user name. You might want to try responding to someone else's post. Remember, you should use "Show preview" to see if your formatting works before you save.


==Other project pages==
== Other project pages ==
In addition to Talk pages, there are some other categories of behind-the-scenes pages that help DJBWikipedians communicate with each other, and serve a variety of other roles in building DJBWiki. These different areas are often referred to as '''namespaces'''&mdash;as in, "the '''Talk''' namespace."
In addition to Talk pages, there are some other categories of behind-the-scenes pages that help DJBWikipedians communicate with each other, and serve a variety of other roles in building DJBWiki. These different areas are often referred to as '''namespaces'''—as in, "the '''Talk''' namespace."


Pages in the '''DJBWiki''' namespace (also known as the "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Project_namespace Project namespace]") provide information about DJBWiki and how to use it.
Pages in the '''DJBWiki''' namespace (also known as the "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Project_namespace Project namespace]") provide information about DJBWiki and how to use it.


Content written in a '''Template''' page will be displayed in articles that contain the corresponding template reference. For example, the content written in [[Template:construction]] will appear in any article that contains the <nowiki>{{construction}}</nowiki> tag. Take a look at [http://www.darkjedibrotherhood.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=&namespace=10 Special:Allpages] to see what templates have already been created. You can use the corresponding tags in articles. You can also create new templates.
Content written in a '''Template''' page will be displayed in articles that contain the corresponding '''template''' reference. For example, the content written in [[Template:Construction|'''Template''':construction]] will appear in any article that contains the <nowiki>{{Construction}}</nowiki> tag. Take a look at [http://www.darkjedibrotherhood.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&amp;from=&amp;namespace=10 Special:Allpages] to see what templates have already been created. You can use the corresponding tags in articles. You can also create new templates.


All these project pages also have Talk pages of their own.
All these project pages also have Talk pages of their own.


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Help:Contents
                   
Talk pages are a key feature of DJBWiki, offering the ability to discuss articles and other issues with other DJBWikipedians.

If you want to ask a question about an article, or you have a concern or comment, you can put a note in the article's talk page. You do that by clicking the "discussion" tab at the top of the page. Don't worry if the link shows up in red; it's OK to create the talk page if it doesn't already exist.

When you post a new comment, put it at the bottom of the talk page. The exception is that if you're responding to someone else's remarks, put your comment below theirs. You can indent your comment by typing an asterisk (*) at the beginning of a line.

You should sign your comments by typing ~~~ for just your username, or ~~~~ for your username and a time signature (see the example discussion below). When you save the page, your signature will be inserted automatically. Most of us use time signatures because it makes following discussions much easier. For your convenience, there is a button at the top of the edit box with a signature icon () which automatically inserts "--~~~~".

You can get a username by creating an account (it's free). If you don't have an account, or if you have one but haven't logged in, you won't be able to make any edits (you will still be able to view the code behind articles.)

User talk pages

Every DJBWikipedian has a user talk page, on which other DJBWikipedians can leave messages. If someone has left you a message, you will see a note saying "You have new messages", with a link to your user talk page.

You can reply in either of two ways. One is to put a message on the user talk page of the person you're replying to. The other is to put your reply on your own talk page beneath the original message. Both are common on DJBWiki; however, be aware that replying on your own talk page runs the risk that your reply won't be seen, if the user doesn't look at your talk page again. If you choose this approach, it's a good idea to post a notice at the top of your talk page so people know they have to keep an eye on it.

Indenting

Indenting can improve the layout of a discussion considerably, making it much easier to read. A standard practice is to indent your reply one level deeper than the person you are replying to.

There are several ways of indenting in DJBWiki:

Plain indentations

The simplest way of indenting is to place a colon (:) at the beginning of a line. The more colons you put, the further indented the text will be. A newline (pressing Enter or Return) marks the end of the indented paragraph.

For example:

This is aligned all the way to the left.
:This is indented slightly.
::This is indented more.

is shown as:

This is aligned all the way to the left.

This is indented slightly.
This is indented more.

Bullet points

You can also indent using bullets, and this is the most commonly used form of indentation on DJBWiki. To insert a bullet, use an asterisk (*). Similar to indentation, more asterisks in front of a paragraph means more indentation.

A brief example:

* First list item
* Second list item
** Sub-list item under second
* Third list item

Which is shown as:

  • First list item
  • Second list item
    • Sub-list item under second
  • Third list item

Numbered items

You can also create numbered lists. For this, use the number sign or octothorpe (#). This is usually used for polls and voting. Again, you can affect the indent of the number by the number of #'s you use.

Example:

# First item
# Second item
## Sub-item under second item
# Third item

Shows up as:

  1. First item
  2. Second item
    1. Sub-item under second item
  3. Third item

Example discussion

Here is an example of a well-formatted discussion:

Hi. I have a question about this article. I'm pretty sure Luke Skywalker was born on Hoth. --Windos 02:49, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)

  • Well, last time I checked, Luke was born on Tatooine. --[/code/index.php?title=User:Ji_K%27awiil&action=edit&redlink=1 Ji K'awiil] 17:28, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
    • I think you should find a source for your claims. --Oberst 20:53, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
      • Okay, these sources agree with me:
  • Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope
  • Star Wars Empire: Darklighter
--User:Ji K'awiil 19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Note that if you want to include a list in your comments, add colons before each item, for example:

      • Okay, these elephant journals agree with me:
  • Elephants Monthly
  • Elephants World
--Ji K'awiil 19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Also, signing your message off is done by:

  • Writing ~~~ for the name (Windos), or
  • Writing ~~~~ for the name and date (Windos 19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)), or
  • Writing ~~~~~ for the date only (19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)).

You should usually sign with both name and date but votes are often signed with names only.

Experiment

Experiment! This time, instead of editing the Sandbox, leave a message on the talk page by clicking "discussion." Remember to sign your user name. You might want to try responding to someone else's post. Remember, you should use "Show preview" to see if your formatting works before you save.

Other project pages

In addition to Talk pages, there are some other categories of behind-the-scenes pages that help DJBWikipedians communicate with each other, and serve a variety of other roles in building DJBWiki. These different areas are often referred to as namespaces—as in, "the Talk namespace."

Pages in the DJBWiki namespace (also known as the "Project namespace") provide information about DJBWiki and how to use it.

Content written in a Template page will be displayed in articles that contain the corresponding template reference. For example, the content written in Template:construction will appear in any article that contains the {{Construction}} tag. Take a look at Special:Allpages to see what templates have already been created. You can use the corresponding tags in articles. You can also create new templates.

All these project pages also have Talk pages of their own.