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Kaine Mandaala I Choose You!!!!!!!!
Anyway... Kaine... if you happen to read this (and as I see you've been playing with my page I hope you will notice :P) is there a reason why on some of the character info boxes "Date of birth" and "Date of death" etc break onto two lines, but on others the field is just expanded so it sticks on one? It's nit-picking of the most extreme degree, but I don't like the line breaks, I prefer how your info page's box looks smaller without the unnecessary extra lines.
Is there a way to get those black horizontal lines on the info boxes so they display in the order colour as well? I know, I know, nit-picking :P --Xanos 15:47, 7 September 2006 (Mountain Daylight Time)
- Thats more a question for me so I'll take it. As for the first part, I can't really find the corrilation in what causes that so its more than likely something else in the page. As for the second question it is possible but.... I'm not sure how that would look. If you really want to just edit the template Template:Sith_charinfo --Dessan 17:03, 7 September 2006 (Mountain Daylight Time)
- The reason it looks "right" on mine is because my character image is the optimal size for the template. 250px wide. The black lines are there to separate out the sections of the infobox, but they don't look right because the black border around the whole box is missing. Kaine Mandaala 19:19, 7 September 2006 (Mountain Daylight Time)
- Fixed the black border thing - oops had the wrong color in that spot. Kaine Mandaala
- Looks better now with the black border. I guess I'll have to resize the image then for the other part.--Xanos 07:11, 8 September 2006 (Mountain Daylight Time)
Pictures
Before anyone mentions it, I'll change the embedded pictures into thumbnails when the resizing code is working again.--Xanos 14:46, 14 March 2007 (MDT)
Time on Yavin
The history concerning your time as a jedi is a bit suspect, especially in terms of your interactions with Luke. The very beginning of the Jedi Praxeum opening is very well documented, so it is highly unlikely you were around for that time. Coupled with having "dark urges" and interacting directly with Luke Skywalker makes it even more suspect. We do try staying away from direction interaction with the "main" character of SW, and the main plot-points of the EU. I would suggest some heavy revision here, lessening the impact you have with the main components of the SW timeline--Halcyon 20:38, 18 October 2007 (MDT)
- Given there was only one Jedi Master at the time, i.e. Luke, there really isn't much of an alternative option other than interaction with him to at least some extent with having been a Jedi in the early years of the NJO. I'd make it later on but having joined the DB in 14 ABY doesn't really leave much room to do so. I'd add a new Jedi Master, but honestly with how many members have unheard of Jedi Masters having survived the purge to train them in the DB universe the purge wasn't much of a purge, so I've always disliked that one.
I left the article intentionally vague and ambiguous with only generalised references to the "Masters Council" and such so as to not introduce an entirely original Kyle Katarn-style character who didn't exist. The one thing that is documented beyond a doubt at the time is the people who made it to Jedi Knight, so I stayed well clear of introducing a new one of those to act as a tutor.
It does mention Luke, true, but only in as much as that at the time Luke was calling the shots on almost everything, at the end of the day, though he didn't get the title until much later, Luke always acted like Grand Master in a capacity the old order never had. As Jedi Academy in particular shows, the early NJO wasn't like the old order and Masters (well, technically just Knights at the time) trained people more like it was school with Luke as the headmaster and the final say on everything. With that in mind when I wrote it I felt it would be unrealistic not to have some commentary from him, enough Jedi went dark during that period for Xanos's fall to be a largely trivial matter, especially given his fall was not as openly direct as with some of the canon students who turned dark at the time. Plus, at the end of the day, it was Luke's academy, he knew all the students, anyone who trained there at anytime would have at least met him once, again Jedi Academy does a good job of showing his direct interaction even with the newbies.
I accept your point that the "first class" of Gantoris, Kyp, the Solo twins, etc, is all well documented in the Jedi Academy Trilogy but more recent sources have tended to blur that quite a bit, even things like Jedi Outcast introducing characters like Desann went a long way to making the NJO feel much larger than the limited faces we saw in the original books which first introduced the Jedi Praxeum. Speaking of Desann in particular, the story draws a lot of inspiration from his backstory and he had time to join, go dark, quit, join the Empire Reborn, create an army and then cause the problems in Jedi Outcast within two or three years, which if you go exclusively by the old sources, would mean when the NJO was still only being treated as about a dozen kids. That was why I deliberately made sure not to mention being a member of the "first class", but just one of the random subsequent students of little consequence. Take Jaden Korr, Rosh Penin, etc, they're all training around the same time, maybe a year or two later, interact a fair bit with Luke, moreso than Xanos, but at the end of the day are wholly unimportant characters in the greater scheme of things. Ironically Brakiss was a far more significant character in the 10-20 ABY period yet he was never mentioned once until we suddenly learned "he was a Jedi who went dark a few years back" which shows how much the era has been retconned over the years.
That all said, if it makes everyone feel better, I can replace "Luke Skywalker" with simply "the Masters" and leave it at that. It doesn't make an awful lot of difference to me. --Xanos 05:05, 19 October 2007 (MDT)
- Well as there were a grand total of two references I went ahead and changed the "Master Skywalker"s to "the Masters". Voila. :P --Xanos 05:38, 19 October 2007 (MDT)