Minor updates to the Character and DB facts - Eludajae 2:25 am 25/10/2007
You don't need to note what you've done here on the Discussion page, it's already documented in the history. Thanks --Tron 17:20, 25 October 2007 (MDT)
Removed by Eludajae 11:56 1/8/2008
Revert?
After speaking with Eludajae, we decided the character still had a role to play, and would probably benefit from a proper page to link to. I've never done a revert before, could a staff member do it so I don't mess anything up please? Impie 15:50, 9 January 2008 (MST)
Rolled back to the last edit Eludajae made before the erasingness. Also put her in the rogue category as per what her dossier told me. --Shadow Taldrya 18:19, 9 January 2008 (MST)
Major Editing and updating now that I am active again- Eludajae 4:28PM 25/01/2008
Section Decree of Knighthood added, template information added,Eludajae /01/28/2007 12:18PM
Section Dark Passions Revealed added, minor edits for wording, Eludajae 02/03/2008 08:56PM
New Picture added to the right top as it was requested by several if I could place a more SW or Dark Jedi oriented picture for my character. Well I believe that new picture complies with the request. Eludajae 12:03PM, 22 April 2008 (EST)
I apologize for the double save hit, but I noticed 7 miss spelled words and the Grammar Nazi in me took hold and I had to correct it. i.g. several miss spellings were corrected. Eludajae 12:39PM, 22 April 2008 (EST)
Show Preview
Please use the Show Preview button before hitting Save page so as not to pile up a number of edits. Thanks --Tron 18:55, 25 January 2008 (MST)
Tron question, should I not edit section by section then? Just click edit for the whole page and make the edits? I use Show Preview as much as possible I promise I do. Eludajae 12;15, 28/01/2008
Section by section is just as many - by using the button you can make one edit, look over the article, see where another needs done, edit, look over, edit, and so on. This makes it so only one actual edit shows up though you may have completed several edits in reality. It helps us when sifting through the Recent Changes to see where we need to help someone. --Tron 14:51, 29 January 2008 (MST)
Article/Outstanding Achievements
Perhaps the beginning of this article could be changed to fall into line with the set format for character articles. The threat dossier really isn't needed, nor the part right under Character History that says where and when you were born since that is in the infobox to the right.
Also, keep in mind that this is not a replacement for your dossier on djb.com, so under Outstanding Achievements you don't list rank promotions, medals earned or SA courses that you passed. --Tron 15:26, 14 October 2008 (MDT)
- Side Note: Synthahol is in Star Trek only, not in Star Wars - you'll never hear it mentioned here.
- Note: I did move the Threat Dossier down into the Character Summery and removed the extra doubled information you noted. Leaving the qoute from Palpatine where it was. Letting us both have what we wanted you wanted it removed and I wanted it kept, so I moved it to a more acceptable location. However as for the Synthahol...there is a name for the blue stuff they drink in the bars it has obviously eluded me...could you instead of just pointing out its incorrect, give me a proper SW name for their synthetic alcohol? However, I believe it was used in A New Hope prior to the remastering of it.
As far as the achievements, I would agree with you if I have the lengthy career that you have and such things as your Knighthood and first Eleveation to E1 no longer mean that much to you. To me they are milestones in my DB career, as are my two first merit medals. When I have the plethera of positions held that you list in your wiki I will be happy to remove them. Its all relative hon.
--Eludajae 6:27, 14 October 2008 (MDT)
- It has nothing to do with my former positions or medals, hell I never got to hold the rank of DJK - it existed but I didn't get it. The thing is, it's the rules laid out for the Wiki for everyone, from the lowliest of low apprentices who joined yesterday to the oldest of old guys - not even any of the Grand Masters can break this rule. The DJBWiki Guidelines say, and I quote, "After discussion with the Grand Master, the Deputy Grand Master, the Wiki Tribune and his staff, it has been clearly decided that the character articles are not a replacement for member's dossier files on DJB.com. Rather, it is a replacement for your Character History on your dossier."
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- So this would mean anything listed outside of what would be in the Character History would not be included.
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- As for the drink from A New Hope, they were drinking Juri juice at the Cantina and then at the Lars Homestead they drank Blue Milk. --Tron 16:34, 15 October 2008 (MDT)
I understand what your saying, but of that is the case, you should remove all positions held as well, as they are listed on your History Outline, and not part of your character history. I agree the body of the wiki should not be simply a repost of your full dossier. But if only character history is to be placed on it. Then what is the purpose for the Outstanding achievements section? You see if we strickly agree with your statement, your in violation of it as well, by listing your positions, which clearly listed in you History Outline on your dossier. Your pointing to my ranks and medals of merits saying they are not outstanding achievement material, but the basis for your statement also rules out all positions ever held as well. So I fail to see where one is allowable and the other is not. Do you see where I am coming from?
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Note: Please understand I am not trying to be a pain in your butt, but I am clearing seeing a double standard here and simply want to understand why one is allowable and the other is not.
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And thank you for the name I can substitue for the other I appreciate that. --Eludajae 4:24, 16 October 2008 (MDT)
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Addendum: After consideration I am coming 1/2 with you I have removed the medals and the degree. However I am keeping the two rank elevations and here is why, DJK is a milestone in someone's DB career it some after clawing your way through the Trials of the Journeymen so it is very much an Outstanding Achievement, you don't see my promotion to Guardian, JH, etc...do you? No they are achievements but not on the level of DJK, now why Sith Warrior, it is your first elevation ever in the club, into the E ranks, however E2, and E3 etc will not be listed. Another promotion will not be listed until and if I become an Elder, then the date of my DA promotion will appear, but not DJM, and etc. The finaly rank that would warant it is Grand Master... Do you see what I am saying? I will not be listing every rank promotion, just the milestone rank promotions as outstanding achievements. I hope this helps.--Eludajae 4:54, 16 October 2008 (MDT)
- If the page was being used as a dossier replacement, it would have every merit award, promotion, sa course, etc. In this article all that was listed were the outstanding acievements in the eyes of the author. I understand why we need to discourage big lists of members' entire medal cases on character articles, but I don't see the problem with listing a couple of the big things like first merit awards and important promotions on the wiki. Same with degrees, it's not like there's a big long list of every sa course on the page, just a little note of the bits that are meaningful. If a note of only the meaningful achievements was a replacement for the dossier, the dossiers would be pretty small.
I think we should allow big things to go in the outstanding achievement section. If we don't allow things like merit awards and promotions, there's no point putting the section into the character articles, because for a good percentage of the membership pretty much all of their achievements are in the form of medal or rank. Also, my page is currently in violation because I list a Sapphire Blade in my achievements section. And it was featured with that in it. If it's against the rules, we should really stop featuring articles that break them :P Impie 07:31, 16 October 2008 (MDT)