Nitpicky Star Wars nerd complaint but would something like "Member Starships" be better? Capital Ships usually mean 100m+ so strictly speaking doesn't fit some of the transports on the list. Usually its:
Spaceship- anything that can fly in space.
Starship- anything that can fly in space AND travel at lightspeed.
Capital Starship- anything that can fly in space AND travel at lightspeed AND is bigger than 100m.
Star Dreadnought- anything that can fly in space AND travel at lightspeed AND is bigger than an ISD.
There are exceptions but that's the terminology they usually go with.--Xanos 10:00, 3 January 2007 (Mountain Standard Time)
it won't, for several reasons. creating more categories like that will lead to a race with people wanting to get into the highest class.--Korras 10:11, 3 January 2007 (Mountain Standard Time)
Ship Classes
I think we should change it to thos efour, but as it is there are no regulations on member starcraft. Seems like any idiot can say they personally own a custom SSD these days... I think the Wiki should start by reflecting a more realistic class system. If somehow there are rules put up soon, at least this will already be in place.
For my personal involvment in the discussion, a YT-2400 isn't a capital ship. It's a Light Freighter.
Kaine Mandaala
You know, I've been meaning to bug you guys and Jac about this very topic. I don't see it being right that anyone under Elder class should have anything bigger than a personal starfighter, simply because it just doesn't fit with the whole fleeing the galaxy and joining a mystic group of Dark Jedi story line. There really needs to be set standards for member starships no matter what class - it would be crazy to let a Protector or even Guardian write about how they use their personal assault shuttle, skipray blast boat, whatever when creating their history. But that all goes back to my other gripe about how some members can't stick to one class of starfighter for a Battle Team, sometimes it seems like you have just about every class of ship in a Battle Team it seems.
Anywho, there should be standards - somebody other than me should bug Sarin (Aristan Dantes) about it--Tron 21:34, 5 January 2007 (Mountain Standard Time)
- I don't particuarly have a problem with people having things like Skipray Blastboats or small freighters... it was really a misperception the EH created that because a starfighter is small its cheaper as most starfighters are military craft and very powerful for their size, your average YT-1300 is pretty crud, doesn't come issued with a shield generator or any weapons, and flys like a brick. The most common type of ship the average dude in Star Wars would own is probably a small transport of some kind. A few people might own starfighters but starfighters are actually probably not that practical as they won't have the life support to support long haul flights. In SW RPG terms stock issue freighters tend to be cheaper than most starfighters- the majority of starfighters tend to be hard to come by too, as most of the "common" starfighters are military craft, you don't find TIEs down the local starship dealers, you might get lucky and find an old banged up Z-95 but civilians would tend to fly more of a sort of "SUV" of the starship world, something that isnt a sports car (fighter) but not a lorry (heavy freighter) either. Light freighters are about as close as you get to a 4-seater saloon. Where I usually start drawing the line is ships that require a crew, as that starts to need some justification for how they're actually flown. A 30m light freighter is pretty commonplace, an 80m heavy freighter with a crew of 20 isn't and is more something someone running a small business would be using, not a private individual. You might get a few people using corvettes as private craft, but that'd probably only be people with a lot of money. --Xanos 04:10, 6 January 2007 (Mountain Standard Time)
- my reasoning for it not being divided was that it would create a race to have ships in the biggest category. granted, I have one of the biggest member-owned ships, but that 1) has a reason, and 2) will serve a later use in the GJW. Jac and I talked that over already. anyway: changed.--Korras 18:08, 6 January 2007 (Mountain Standard Time)
- Actually, I think this could be a good thing in that regard, I'd add to the Capital Ships category "by GM approval only" or something so that people don't even think of trying- as people obviously aren't going to get capital ships approved anytime in the future unless somebody important has said yes. Anything smaller, meh, maybe, but at least it'd act as a barrier for them to stop at (which currently there doesn't seem to be, looking at some of the obviously dumb things on the present list :P).--Xanos 03:37, 7 January 2007 (Mountain Standard Time)