In the GJW fiction, this vessel was destroyed. While Tarentum has a Belarus cruiser, technically it should be a completely different ship. A new name/page would be needed --Halcyon 19:50, 18 October 2007 (MDT)
New ship, redesignated Acheron. It happens, you know. Sometimes navies like a specific name and will keep the name alive, see: USS Enterprise, USS Baltimore, HMS Victory, HMS Exeter, La Redoutable. - Oberst 09:16, 19 October 2007 (MDT)
That's fine. But as the ship "history" still makes it seem like the previous version, it was a safe bet to assume this was the same vessel as well --Halcyon 09:20, 19 October 2007 (MDT)
It pretty much is. Since Raken fucked up and blew it up, we're effectively retconning it back. - Oberst 09:26, 19 October 2007 (MDT)
Different ship, same name. Got it. The history can easily say "this ship was christened the Archeron in memory of" and then you can give the history. No big deal. However, you are not retconning it. This ship was destroyed, just like every other clan had ships destroyed. You guys are not special and can create new ships just like everyone else. --Sarin 16:28, 19 October 2007 (MDT)
Guys, this is either the original that was destroyed, or a brand new one that was named in honour of the previously destroyed vessel. Please choose one. As Sarin already stating, there is no "ret-conning". You can create a separate page for the "new" one, while keeping this page for historical purposes --Halcyon 20:14, 19 October 2007 (MDT)
Yeah, thanks. We don't need you re-stating what Sarin said. We can read his statements just fine, thanks. -Bloodfyre
I made that comment when I noticed that nothing was being changed, but instead added on to the page. These changes occurred after Sarin's comments, and since those comments seem to be ignored, I think it's necessary to point them out again. --Halcyon 22:51, 19 October 2007 (MDT)
No, actually, it's not. Again, we can read. Thanks for stopping by. -Bloodfyre
As I understand it then, you are continuing to update this wiki page with information linking it to the current Tarentum fleet. This same ship is also the exact one that was destroyed during the GJW. Just thinking out loud. Thank you --Halcyon 23:00, 19 October 2007 (MDT)
Think out loud somewhere else then, if you please. Your input is neither needed, nor desired. This will be taken care of at MY leisure, and at MY direction to the members of Tarentum who are taking care of these pages. Have a good evening. -Bloodfyre
Gonna quickly step in to point out that Halc is part of the Wiki Staff who are around to ensure that everything done on the wiki is on the level. Getting pissy at him cause he's more active than some other staff member is sad, and continuing an argument past Sarin's ruling is a waste of time. You all need to get over this anti-DC/Tar thing and realize you're no more special than Plagueis or Arcona. --Shadow Taldrya 23:06, 19 October 2007 (MDT)
I'm well aware of what positions Halc has. I'm also aware that I have now said three times that I read what Sarin has said, and that I will be taking care of it, and I don't need his reminders. I will now also say to you, Shadow, that I don't need your reminders, either. I also don't have to tell you that shit is being taken care of as we can get to it, and as we figure out what we want to do. We are currently discussing things on IRC right now, and are figuring out whether to use this page for both, or to create another page, and use one for each ship. Since I now have to inform you of everything I'm doing, or in the process of doing, would you like me to include you on Clan reports, Internal Reports, and would you like to come hold my hand while I go take a shit for the next five minutes? Thanks, bye. -Bloodfyre