Talk:Derev Niroth

Thorin you ought to contact ex British PM Tony Blair and see if he wants any help writing his memoirs. Based on your creative interpretation of your second term in Naga Sadow you ought to help him come out smelling of roses.

Malisane

Derev, you know well that that much of that history is your opinion, not what actually happened. You can have that opinion, and be wrong for all I care, but not on your history. Revise it, Thanks. --Vlad 08:58, 15 August 2007 (MDT)

Hahaha, you make some very interesting claims in your wiki history - gotta love fiction :) --Kir Taldrya Katarn 17:57, 18 August 2007 (MDT)

Kir: Historical records can prove that you disregarded my applications (I say this because you never asked a single question, interviewed me, etc), and that each individual you appointed to PCON, QUA, and AED were complete washouts. Furthermore, Jaysen, the member you appointed to QUA over me asked you numerous times to allow him to appoint me as Aedile, however, you did not allow it. Jaysen was perhaps the worst of your three appointees, utterly disappearing very quickly after appointment.

If it would please the membership and the Justicar, I could perhaps create a wiki page detialing the events of these three situations. Or, instead, you can shut your mouth and stop trying to cover up your less then oustanding tenure as DGM. --User:Derev Niroth

I forgot how terrible my choice for PCON was....wait, isn't he the Grand Master now? And I'm not going to detail the reasons I choose other members over you for leadership positions, but I will say that I am still confident it was the correct decision. Posts such as your last one just prove to me once again why I made the right choice. --Kir Taldrya Katarn 20:04, 14 October 2007 (MDT)

I didn't mean Sarin, I worded that incorrectly. I'm referring to Jaysen, and the jackass you appointed to his Aedile. Remember Jaysen, your friend from Taldryan who did *NOTHING* after his appointment, and was removed for being AWOL shortly later. And remember him requesting me as his Aedile, and you denied that (something a CON traditionally does not do). Sarin had no stance on the issue, instead saying it was your decision (the smart decision for him, being new and his status about the EH still being a bitch).

What post are you referring to? Surely not T:DV, so I'm assuming you're referring to Envoy. Yes, I don't need a position to hold over people's heads, and I'll gladly resign a position to make a point. I don't need a fancy title to help a house, clan, or the Brotherhood. I can be just as effective as a normal member

And Kir, I would *love* to hear your "reasons", considering that upto that moment, you had zero experience with me in the DB or anywhere else to my knowledge, and my reptuation was still "clean". I was freshly promoted Equite with a reccomendation from my Summit. More then the DJK you made QUA can say. Derev Niroth

Yea, you completely ignored the last line of my post and instead insulted several members and continued with your inane ramblings, good work. --Kir Taldrya Katarn 20:15, 14 October 2007 (MDT)

The wiki isn't for anyone's personal vedetta, nor is it for insulting other members of the DB. You have a problem with someone, you know their e-mails. Any more responses and that member is banned from the wiki for an indefinite period of time. Thanks --Halcyon 20:17, 14 October 2007 (MDT)

While I appreciate your attempt to difuse the situation, 1) it's well known that certain Taldryan members love to gang up on moments like this. In fact, I'd bet a large ammount of money you were pointed to this thread by Kir. 2) The Combat Master does not have the appropriate authority to ban a member from the Wiki, it is well outside his domain. 3) You have an inheriant bias against me, and should use better judgement to not use your power (or perceived power, in this case) to interfere in something you shouldnt. 4) I would point out this wouldn't happen if people didn't feel the need to defend thier actions on my wiki. I addressed the actual concerns the Wiki Tribune (Vladek, at the time) asked me to address. I removed certain references and changed the wordings on things so I wasen't directly offending anyone. However, if people continue to attack the validity of my Wiki on my talk page, I'm entitled to respond.

If Tron asks me to change anything on my Wiki, as Vladek did, I will discuss the situation with him privately, and change what I deem needs to be changed, and go over Tron's head if something needs to be changed that I don't think should be. A Wiki Page is a personalized history of a member, in this case, written by the member. Of course certain biases will slip in, and things may be worded differently then some people would like. But on the whole, my Wiki *is* accurate, and it does refrain from outright insulting anyone. Again, i will make the arguement that if a factual statement is deemed offensive by someone, they should evaluate thier ations that led to that factual statement, not attack the factual statement. This is my Wiki, and it's my account of my past. Historical innaccuricies, feel free to let me know about. However, because you don't like the way something is worded, not my problem, talk to the Wiki Tribune, and we'll take it under advisement if he comes and talks to me about it.

Halc, no offense, butt out of this situation. Other then being another Taldryan Derev Hater, you have no reason to be involved in this. The Justicar has all the authority he needs to end this (and I'll note, Kir is smart enough not to do that. You don't throw around your authority in something that could create a bias. A lesson you could learn from). I had no intention to reply again until you stuck your head in here. Go run the ACC, that's your job.